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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:01 am Quote selected Reply with quote
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I don't know if you've seen it already, but I kinda like this new SE by MSN.
http://rwsm.directtaps.net/ - although it's only beta and does not have the complete database of pages that search.msn.com has, It brings nice results (actually not fine by me as far as my keywords) and they seem to come from the most updated MSN SE datacenter.

Another great plus is that they write you on the side - simliar keywords that were searched by their popularity.
enjoy.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:52 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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very interesting results from this, will be interesting to watch what M$ does with it.

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What is it - a search engine or a toolbar? Is it intended to be used as a search engine, or is that just the demo of what you get if you install the toolbar?

It's using a small database at the moment, so it remains to be seen how the useful the left column will be when it has a full index to go at. At the moment the left column is useful. Or have I missed something.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:00 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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I think that this Beta has great potential - if it incorporates the full database.

I like the idea of seeing the related searches and volume on the left hand side.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:01 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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What is it - a search engine or a toolbar?


Looks to be both, no idea what their plans for its future will be.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:03 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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At first I thought the numbers on the left were searches, which would have been very useful, but I was wrong.

What I don't like is the inability to click back to the homepage after doing a search.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:07 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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I've installed the toolbar. With the "clustering" button selected, it produces the results we see on the website. If it's off, it returns the full MSN results. I think I'll keep it installed.

One thing I do like with the toolbar is that, regardless of whether or not the Clustering button is selected when a search is made, just clicking it goes at gets results from the other setting. I.e. if you searched MSN, then clicking the Clustering button goes and gets the clustered results, and vice versa.

The English on the website leaves a little to be desired, and the spelling in the toolbar does too. One of the Options is "Open a new window to diaplay results each time" - my bolding Smile

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:21 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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I am pretty sure if its adapted into the main msn stuff that wll all be corrected :p

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:23 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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I'll have to load that tool bar and play with it but it Looks like MSN may be pushing Googles button pretty hard with this one.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:49 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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Results seem pretty damn decent on the searches I have tried so far.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:05 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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I like the results and the left hand menu. I’m downloading the toolbar now.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:09 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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Well I like the results too, but then I have had a #1 ranking on MSN for a long time.

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The results are not too dissimilar the the main MSN rankings, and maybe when the whole index is used, they will be no different except that it has the left column stuff.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:12 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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Results are not that different, but they come from the most recently updated data center.
Yesterday night I've lost my #1 place for some one else and in the regular MSN it appeared only at night, while I've seen it comming with this search about 5 hours earlier.
Never mind the fact that the regular MSN search last night was giving different results for different CAPS in the search.

I think eventually it will be integrated and only then they will update the full database in too it (or a couple of days before - to check it).
Very nice tool, hopefully will be completed soon.

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Wow, I love it, nice find dondor!

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