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Post Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:45 am Quote selected Reply with quote
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Quick experiment:
http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/h-test.html

On this page there are two made up phrases that had zero results in Google, "HMS Sodfish Pie" and "uss mupet flan".

Page is now spidered and indexed by Google and searching for "uss mupet flan", which is just normal text returns the page above.

However searching on "HMS Sodfish Pie", which is in H1 tags returns no results!

So maybe Janeth was correct and Google is ignoring content in H1 tags. Really need more data though so has anybody else experimented with this?

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:56 am Quote selected Reply with quote
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For the page which brought back no results could you now try adding the same phrase in h2 and h3?

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:07 am Quote selected Reply with quote
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Just added a couple of 'unique' phrases using H1/2 so let it cook for a couple of days and see what happens with them.

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:39 am Quote selected Reply with quote
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as far as I always thought of it, you needed to have a keyword in the body and the title for H tags to really affect anything. I may be wrong on this, but it is how we have always done things based on.

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:34 am Quote selected Reply with quote
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Wooh, really?
Can't wait to see how the results turn out, I currently do not use <h> tags...

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:49 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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Thanks dmilford,

It looks like they ignore them if they did not pick up a word that is made up. It may be time to remove <h> tags from my site and my clients sites.

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:06 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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I wouldn't do that Janeth. I certainly looks like the H1 tag is being ignored when there is nothing to back up the phrase anywhere else on the page, but when there is, the H tags may still be very advantagous.

Darren, can you add the 3 words "HMS", "sodfish" and "pie" in the text but not together? Let's see if the individual words cause the H1 tag to be counted before checking them as another instance of the exact phrase.

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:11 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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I was not going to do anything yet PhilC Grin

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:20 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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Hi folks,

I've added (this AM) a couple more pages that are identical to each other with the same unranked rubbish phrase twice each. One page has the phrase once in H1 tags and once in 'normal text whilst the other is the same but without the H1 tags.

Should be interesting to see which ranks higher.

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:37 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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I've also started a test - with a phrase in an H1 tag and its constituent words in the body text. The words are seperated and are the wrong way round in the text.

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:49 am Quote selected Reply with quote
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Tell us how it goes, this is starting to get interesting... Cool

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Of course Smile

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:22 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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Just wondering...
How long does it take to do such a test?

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It depends on how quickly Google crawls the page. The result of my test should be known quite quickly.

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:22 pm Quote selected Reply with quote
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Phil, how long is it now since google last did a proper crawl? Getting v annoyed waiting Very angry

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