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	<title>Directory Submission Services :: RE: -&amp;gt; Zonneke's Quality Service : simply better results !</title>
	<link>http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/viewtopic.php?p=181493#181493</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5589&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;zonneke&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:26 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 493&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;WilliamC wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;And what would the cost be, if say, we GAVE you the blogs we wanted posted on?&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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well, I have been thinking about this; first of all I should make the research and the commenting separated anyway, as most of the blogs we find are worth it to comment in weekly or so, which means that after 2-3 researches we'll have a very good list to comment on; which is what you already have, so then it's just about commenting ... 
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but ... many things depend on your requirements, and so the way we work;
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take more risks for higher PR's or play safe to get more links?
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submit to multiple pages in the same blog or not ...
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become member of a group and jump around
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post to anything related or only related AND high PR ...
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so, the level of difficulty will determine how much we can do in 4 or 8 hours ...
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	<title>Directory Submission Services :: RE: -&amp;gt; Zonneke's Quality Service : simply better results !</title>
	<link>http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/viewtopic.php?p=181492#181492</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5589&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;zonneke&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:58 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;mmm ... I did answer a PM from you ... let me check my emails ... we did have an electricity cut yesterday, some big works going here, so yesterday we couldn't work ... but that was just yesterday ... 
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if you still don't get an answer, your email might have got lost in cyberspace, please, send it again ... I always answer all emails a.s.a.p.
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	<title>Google Forum :: Google adds new personalization - Search Wiki</title>
	<link>http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/viewtopic.php?p=181491#181491</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5625&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;theGypsy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Google adds new personalization - Search Wiki&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:20 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Hey kids.... whatcha make of this? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huomah.com/News/Latest/Google-Search-Wiki.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Google Search Wiki&lt;/a&gt;
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Game changer or lame changer?
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vervedevelopments.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Affordable custom website design&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reliable-seo.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Affordable SEO Services&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-seo-handbook.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Learn SEO &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Google Forum :: RE: 2009 Predictions</title>
	<link>http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/viewtopic.php?p=181490#181490</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5625&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;theGypsy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:18 am (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;How about this new one; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huomah.com/News/Latest/Google-Search-Wiki.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Google Search Wiki&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vervedevelopments.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Affordable custom website design&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reliable-seo.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Affordable SEO Services&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-seo-handbook.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Learn SEO &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Google Forum :: RE: Reciprical Linking</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=4413&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;jon-d&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:49 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 5&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;montytx wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;My personal experience is they are the second most valuable behind one way when they are from a site of related content.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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lol- that important eh?
&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thermalprinterservices.co.uk/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt; barcode label printers&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coursetosteer.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt; rya sailing holiday&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/69jal2&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;printer maintenance&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.evosite.co.uk&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;web design uk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Search engine optimization / search engine related discussion :: RE: Search engine marketing optimization</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=20345&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;lewisdb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:36 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;By the way great t$(^s Kay &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Razz&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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	<title>Search engine optimization / search engine related discussion :: RE: Search engine marketing optimization</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=20345&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;lewisdb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:35 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;i am new to this site, but for what its worth i think if the idiots that were spending their time spaming sites like this concentrated on good quality seo then they would be better off.
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	<title>Search engine optimization / search engine related discussion :: RE: Article Submission to Blogs</title>
	<link>http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/viewtopic.php?p=181486#181486</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=20345&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;lewisdb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:27 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;It depends on the quality of the site that contains the link. In my experience you would be better off spending the money to have an authoritative article written on your niche!
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Content is king, if you have any spare budget spend it on your own site and not to add value to others &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Razz&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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	<title>Search engine optimization / search engine related discussion :: RE: About Backlinks</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=20345&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;lewisdb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:23 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Firstly what are you using to check how many links you have?
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Second, Just getting your site seen is not in itself going to get you back links. You need to look at your content. Are you providing other sites with a reason to link to you?
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Content is king, work on great quality and link bait and give someone a reason to link to you. If your sites contact is sub standard then you will always strugle to get links!
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	<title>Search engine optimization / search engine related discussion :: RE: Are Blogs r good for &amp;quot;Google Adsense&amp;quot;</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1734&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;montytx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:05 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I do...I do.( my hand raised as high as I can get it)
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.montfortwebdesigndallas.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Small Business SEO&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bankruptcy-lawyersonline.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;bankruptcy lawyer&lt;/a&gt; 
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dallasgranitecountertops.net/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Granite Countertops&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Google Forum :: RE: Reciprical Linking</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1734&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;montytx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:02 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;My personal experience is they are the second most valuable behind one way when they are from a site of related content.
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.montfortwebdesigndallas.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Small Business SEO&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bankruptcy-lawyersonline.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;bankruptcy lawyer&lt;/a&gt; 
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dallasgranitecountertops.net/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Granite Countertops&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Yahoo! Forum (inc. Overture) :: RE: why our site rank well on google,but bad on yahoo ?</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=4413&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;jon-d&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:23 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ties-necktie.com wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Is it true that it takes longer to be effective on google?&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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I think Google just assigns more importance to age of links.
&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thermalprinterservices.co.uk/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt; barcode label printers&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coursetosteer.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt; rya sailing holiday&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/69jal2&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;printer maintenance&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.evosite.co.uk&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;web design uk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Google Forum :: RE: Ranking which come then go then come then go</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3523&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Gennady&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:32 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;The important thing to remember that search engines are not like yellow pages.  Once you are there, your not guaranteed to stay there simply because you were before.  You are also not entitled for listing.
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If you have not being pursuing SEO actively, it may be a sign that your competitor are just passing you and there are datacenter variances that are indicated this.
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	<title>Google Forum :: Ranking which come then go then come then go</title>
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=20344&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Darren Revell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Ranking which come then go then come then go&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:11 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;We have a problem that our site gets found for key terms for years, then in the past 6 weeks some days they have been live and some days they have not. Its not a total ban and or page glues.
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Normally we are say link 4-5 for a result, then we drop out for 3-5 days then we come back again. Its happened 3 times in 6 weeks but only for a few terms, not all our terms
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Any ideas gladly welcomed
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	<title>Yahoo! Forum (inc. Overture) :: RE: why our site rank well on google,but bad on yahoo ?</title>
	<link>http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/viewtopic.php?p=181477#181477</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=19940&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Ties-necktie.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:16 pm (GMT 0)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I also rank much better on yahoo for every single keyword that I have been targeting.
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I started focusing on off-site SEO (primarily link building using anchortext) about 3 months ago. The site is 1 year old.
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Is it true that it takes longer to be effective on google?
&lt;br /&gt;_________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;Ties-Necktie.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; - The best place for quality [a href=&quot;http://www.ties-necktie.com/&quot;]mens ties[/a], [a href=&quot;http://www.ties-necktie.com/bow-ties/&quot;]bow ties[/a], and cufflinks on the internet.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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